On Fri, 2010-05-28 at 22:52 -0400, David Boles wrote: > Honest all I was hoping for was no more names and friends united for a > common cause. ---- I'm certain that calling people assholes doesn't convey that message whatsoever. This is coming from someone who agrees with your general sentiments but finds your ability to deliver the message thoroughly lacking. The Fedora 'users' list (broadening because it was under a different title until recently) has long had a number of reasonably knowledgeable users that whine, bitch and moan but don't join the specific lists where these things are productively discussed and many of them don't bother to create bugzilla entries. I understand why most Fedora packagers/developers don't want to stay subscribed to this list because they get the impression that their volunteer efforts are often unappreciated. For those that are actively involved in volunteer efforts, like you, they need to sometimes turn a deaf ear and/or develop a thick skin because the whiners, gripers, bitchers and moaners actually have good intentions but like you have sometimes demonstrated a lack of perspective, tact and respect for others efforts. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines