On 03/21/2011 02:19 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/21/2011 12:54 PM, suvayu ali wrote: >> If I may ask, what is wrong with sudo? Specially when configured with PASSWD? > If you have the root password, it's the wrong tool for the job. It's > designed, AIUI, for people who *don't have* the root password to have > *limited access* to specific root commands. It can also be used (as I > described in a different message) to allow people *limited access* to > programs that they'd not normally be able to run. If you have the > password, there's no reason that I can see to pretend you don't. In > fact, in Fedora, you can't even set sudo up so that you can use it > without using the *root password!* Gah! The old man is forced to reply to such ... First of all, after nearly 30 years of UNIX and then Linux administration, I would not hire you into my group with a belief such as that. There is an old saying: 'The palest ink is better than the best of memories.' The main advantage, and one of the main reasons for sudo, is logging. Maybe you can remember everything you typed as root a year ago, but I certainly cannot. The shell history of root is not sufficient. Process accounting is not sufficient. If you examine the sudo logs you will find not only date and time stamps, but much of the environment settings of how the command was executed. Failure to make this available to yourself during a diagnostic session is unwise. Spend some time in /var/log/secure and get back to us about how logging in as root is superior. I will take exception only to those times when I MUST chain several commands together, and each time that happens I evaluate whether to script it instead. So should you. Good Luck! -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines