Alan wrote: <snip> : > Hi Alan. I've attended a few of those in years gone by. Small world. : : They we have probably met. I am the one who organizes them and get speakers. : : Want to talk at a PLUG Advanced Topics meeting? Sure. I always enjoy getting laughed off the stage. :-) The content at the 2 or 3 talks I've been too (more than 5 years ago) was quite "out of my league". Now, if people wanted to hear a talk on Signal/Image Processing Theory, or Biblical Theology, or Measure Theory, or the writings of C.S. Lewis, I'd be game :-) Besides, I haven't followed the PLUG list for some time. <smip> : > The issue is "layers of protection I think". I, too, doubt that : > there's much real IP in the driver. : : It was just that "IP protection" was the stock excuse without ever : stopping to thing about exactly what IP they were really talking about. Yep. We ran into a similar thing here at the Labs a few years ago when we were developing a fast booting laptop based on the Midori (linux) kernel. We wanted to make most of the laptop applications OSS but the lawyers went into apoplectic fits at the thought. : > I don't know what's become of him or if there's any connection btwn : > nVidia and XFree86 or Xorg these days. : : The closed source people at nVIDIA have been pretty responsive. Yes. Except for actually opening up their code, nVidia has been simply wonderful, in my experience. Exception: their response to solving the suspend/hibernate problems connected with their driver on certain laptops under the linux kernel has been less than stellar. : The x.org : people have seemed a bit more pragmatic when it comes to dealing with : vendors. (Whether that is good or bad is left to philosophical debate.) Agreed. Dean