Sam Varshavchik: <snip> : If you want hardware-accelerated 3D, yes. Or, you'll have to install : Nvidia's binary blobs. But if you do that, and if afterwards you have : problems with the kernel crashing, you'll have to remove Nvidia's non-free : drivers, and reproduce the problem without them, before anyone will help : you. <snip> Nonsense. I've run nothing but nvidia's binary drivers for the past 5 years under SuSE, Mandrake, and now Fedora and received all kinds of help. For the record, I have not once had a kernel crash due to the nvidia drivers. I have, on the other hand, received some of the best help I've ever gotten from Mark Vojkovich who works (worked?) at nvidia and (I believe) is one of the authors of the driver. Due to the binary driver, I've been able to driver non-standard displays of all kinds which no OS driver had a prayer of driving. Nothing to do with 3D either. Dean