Ed Greshko wrote:
Mike McCarty wrote:
I have found that any time I bring up a way in which Linux,
or Fedora Core in particular, could benefit from easier install/
modification/you name it, especially since the OTHER OS already
supports such, I get flames more or less like what you experience
here.
I could see that happening on this list. Remember, it is a "users" list.
I've seen it happen on *all* the "user" lists associated with Linux.
There are other lists that may be more useful when bringing up certain
suggestions. Like, for example, Fedora-config-list for the Discussions
about configuration tool development.
Note, my use of the word "suggestion" and not "criticism".
Being "critical" of another's work or starting a thread with a phrase such
I wasn't using the term "criticism" in a negative sense. Sorry if I
didn't make that clear.
as "sucks, sucks, sucks" is already setting a combative tone. FWIW, many of
I agree with this statement that the tone was combative, rather
than helpful. (At least from my viewpoint.) In any case, I think
that when a user has a complaint, then it needs to be taken as
an opportunity to do some reflection whether something might not
be done a little better.
these protracted threads start out generally peaceful. It seems that
somewhere along the way someone inserts a personal attack, be it intended or
not, and it spirals down from there.
Yes, it seems so.
Criticism, however well-intentioned, however spot-on, however helpful
it might be, is not something easily condoned by people for whom an
operating system is nearly a religion.
.
.
If another OS does some things better, then the Linux and GNU crowd
should take that as an opportunity to review, and see whether some
lesson couldn't be learned, rather than as an opportunity to express
disdain for anything not of the pale.
It may be helpful if we all remember that words such as "better", and
"spot-on" are subjective terms.
Yes. And the word "however" which I used above indicates that some
may be more, and some may be less.
It may also be be helpful to understand that some suggestions to an
application, process, kernel, or whatever may not be as easy to accomplish
as stating the goal. I venture to say that quite a few folks have written
some application/code and then found they've painted themselves into a
corner and the only avenue of escape is a total re-write.
Certainly so. And in such cases breaking backward compatibility is
sometimes a painful choice. BUT, currently, there is no published,
well-documented, and supported driver interface for Linux, is there?
But, my dream did not come true. I went back to sleep with the hopes that
this thread would die. However, as always, it would take restraint on the
part of some, and resignation on the part of others.
Are you resigning? :-)
Mike
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