Mike McCarty wrote: > I have found that any time I bring up a way in which Linux, > or Fedora Core in particular, could benefit from easier install/ > modification/you name it, especially since the OTHER OS already > supports such, I get flames more or less like what you experience > here. I could see that happening on this list. Remember, it is a "users" list. There are other lists that may be more useful when bringing up certain suggestions. Like, for example, Fedora-config-list for the Discussions about configuration tool development. Note, my use of the word "suggestion" and not "criticism". Being "critical" of another's work or starting a thread with a phrase such as "sucks, sucks, sucks" is already setting a combative tone. FWIW, many of these protracted threads start out generally peaceful. It seems that somewhere along the way someone inserts a personal attack, be it intended or not, and it spirals down from there. > Criticism, however well-intentioned, however spot-on, however helpful > it might be, is not something easily condoned by people for whom an > operating system is nearly a religion. > . . > If another OS does some things better, then the Linux and GNU crowd > should take that as an opportunity to review, and see whether some > lesson couldn't be learned, rather than as an opportunity to express > disdain for anything not of the pale. It may be helpful if we all remember that words such as "better", and "spot-on" are subjective terms. It may also be be helpful to understand that some suggestions to an application, process, kernel, or whatever may not be as easy to accomplish as stating the goal. I venture to say that quite a few folks have written some application/code and then found they've painted themselves into a corner and the only avenue of escape is a total re-write. But, my dream did not come true. I went back to sleep with the hopes that this thread would die. However, as always, it would take restraint on the part of some, and resignation on the part of others.