David wrote: > On 7/31/2010 3:00 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: >> Bruno Wolff III wrote: >>> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 13:00:33 -0400, >>> Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> >>> But they probably aren't going to work with recent kernels. So that makes them >>> not very useful for using them on recent Fedora. >>> >>> >>> >>> Also the ones that are paid to develop graphics drivers have 3D support >>> low on the their list of things to work on. Airlie covers some of this in: >>> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2009-November/042327.html >>> >>> >>> >>> The topic is more nuanced than that. Part of it is RPMFusion users getting >>> support here instead of RPMFusion. Part of it is that Fedora's stated >>> principals are such that it attracts people who care more about free software >>> than say Ubuntu. Part of it is if you want to change corporations' >>> behaviors you need to affect their bottom line. That is why some people here >>> will advocate not buying nVidia hardware even when it is cheaper for the >>> performance when using the binary drivers. Part of it is people using >>> nVidia's driver stuff directly which changes your system in ways that >>> may be hard to undo later and may introduce security problems that are >>> hard to fix unless nVidia issues an update. >>> >> Given the reality, that users bought computers which Linux supported >> only a few years ago, and in some cases paid extra to get computers >> which ran Linux, it really sends a message to have that hardware become >> unsupported two years later. Thanks guys. Hand MSFT a big bag of FUD >> about "will Linux even run on your computer by the time it's depreciated >> or paid for?" Sadly, for once it's true. :-( > > > Your last paragraph has me confused. The part about "paid extra". Paid > extra for what exactly? > > I ask because I have never done that. I have stayed away from obvious > conflicting things like Win-Modems and Lexmark printers but I have never > paid more for Linux support. > I'm glad you never had to buy a more expensive system, particularly laptops, to get hardware which is supported. Many others have, definitely including me. -- Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines