Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Les Mikesell wrote:
That's a matter of opinion. It may matter to you why your 3rd party
application doesn't run. It matters to me whether it runs or not.
It is not a matter of opinion. You claimed that if Fedora shipped
official Java, then the problems would disappear for third party
applications.
I don't think that's exactly what I said. I think I said Sun Java but
in any case what I meant if if wasn't clear were the versions needed to
run 3rd party apps. And at this point that is generally Sun Java 1.5 or
sometimes 1.4.
OpenJDK is Fedora 9 is officially Java and certified as such. You
cannot continue to claim otherwise. If you still run into problems,
you should be filing bug reports.
Against what? Applications that specify that they require Sun Java 1.4
or 1.5?
Are you running any recent release of Fedora?
No, they have been too painful.
What are the specific issues?
OpenNMS would be a good test. At the moment it won't work with either
java 1.6 or postgresql 8.3. Yes, those are mostly application issues,
but regarding different behavior by different versions.
Depending on implementation specific quirks would certainly be a
bug.
Agreed, but working is a yes or no question.
Have you ever filed a single bug report in
http://bugzilla.redhat.com against Fedora?
Not regarding java, as I've given up on caring if fedora continues to
ship broken versions or not. I would prefer a design that permits easy
installation of versions of my choice and co-existence of multiple
versions, though. Java is clearly designed to permit that even though
the fedora setup doesn't take into consideration that different apps may
need different versions at the same time.
Your bugs should be filed
depending on whether it is a application issue or a implementation
issue. If applications follow the standard specification, they would be
compatible with all implementation s of Java which follow the
specification whether it is OpenJDK in Fedora 9, Sun Java, IBM Java or
something else.
That hasn't been true, ever, as far as I know. Almost every large java
app will have some version-level dependencies - if you want to run them
you use the appropriate jvm. Maybe someday...
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