Re: The Scope and Ownership of fedora-list

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Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Les Mikesell wrote:
 That's slightly less important in f9 than it used to
be but there are still plenty of things that won't work with openjdk.
True but OpenJDK in Fedora 9 is 100% certified Java

http://developer.redhatmagazine.com/2008/07/08/java-in-fedora-first/

You have argued before that, that the problems are due to the lack of "official java" moniker and that has never really been the case. The problems are either non-standard features used by Java applications or things not covered by the specification.
But that doesn't matter. Things work or not. And without a real Sun
Java which could have been trivial to obtain/install, many things don't
work. And instead of providing the trivial help to install a working
java, someone must have spent an enormous amount of effort providing
something sort-of-like java, ignoring the fact that it won't run
everything that a user will need it to run. I'm sure it was an
interesting project, but releasing it to end users in that state was
just counterproductive regardless of your
business/political/philosophical agenda for doing it. Going forward, now
that Sun has removed any possible objection you could have to shipping
their code, I expect this problem to just go away on its own but
historically it has been a horrible user experience without any real
justification.
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  Les Mikesell
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