Re: Java problem

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Alan Cox wrote:
I'm not the one who reversed the meaning of free to mean restricted. And the GPL is simply restrictions.
Restrictions to stop abuse, removal of rights by third parties and
to produce greater freedom.
They reduce both innovation and freedom.  If the original TCP/IP 
implementation had been encumbered with GPL restrictions, we probably 
would not be able to have this conversation today.
You could say the same of the US consitution.
After all why should the president not be able to cancel elections, they
interfere with his freedom to innovate foreign policy.
Be careful what you suggest...  The constitution hasn't stopped the 
administration from creating a special class of people who are permitted 
to invade privacy with no balancing oversight.  I'd expect them to be 
using any information they collect to suit their own agenda.
of works - or keeping themselves from being improved in other ways. The FSF even claims that it is illegal to distribute components separately that may be combined with GPL'd parts unless you apply the same restrictions. That's like saying I can't give someone a cover for their copyrighted book or a frame for their painting.
You should also perhaps have asked for a beginners book on copyright law
from Santa. Your analogies are totally broken. A frame is not a
derivative work, nor is a cover (usually). The GPL likewise does not
cover non-derivative works.
I'm not aware of any books that would show a court's decision on a case 
like the FSF's claim in the RIPEM situation (a claim that code 
containing no covered code was derivative).
If you take from another work whether you make a cover by printing out a
photo from inside a book and colouring it in, or by using GPL code in
your code you end up with a derived work and the original author has
rights not too.
It is clearly not legal to include a copy of covered works (although I 
contend that it harms all concerned when the same user is allowed to 
have a copy of the separate individual work anyway). However, I haven't 
seen anything except the FSF claim that when a user obtains his own copy 
of a covered work that its copyright can cover some other work written 
by someone else and distributed separately.  Has there ever been a court 
decision showing something not containing any covered material to be a 
derived work?
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   Les Mikesell
    lesmikesesll@xxxxxxxxx


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