On Sun, 2007-12-30 at 15:16 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 30 December 2007, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >Les Mikesell wrote: > >> The bigger problem is distributing something that is not java compatable > >> but executing it with the java name. Microsoft tried to promote an > >> incompatible program that similarly fit their agenda with the java name > >> and Sun successfully sued them over it. The fedora-shipped not-java > >> program that executes with the java name does just as much damage and > >> shouldn't be named java until it passes the compatibility tests. I'm > >> surprised fedora's legal dept. allowed this abuse of a trademarked name. > > > >That's because trademark does not apply to filenames. Sun doesn't > >consider classpath or GCJ as damage to Java in any way and has even used > >the same license classpath originally had for their new openjdk effort. > >IcedTea is a free and open source derivative of OpenJDK and included in > >Fedora 8 by default and Sun has continued to use that as a prototype to > >remove the binary encumbrances in their code. Once OpenJDK becomes > >completely open source, Fedora will include that by default. > > > >Besides a compatible version of Java requires signing a test suite which > >until recently came with onerous restrictions that has been lifted and > >paved the way to better compatibility. > > > >http://www.press.redhat.com/2007/11/05/red-hat-helps-advance-open-source-jav > >a/ > > > >Rahul > > Excellent news, Rahul. Unforch not in time for F8, F9 maybe? ---- you should have followed the links in the article which would have brought you to... http://labs.jboss.com/community/interviews/sacha_sun.html which actually answers that and more Craig