David Boles wrote: >> I must say I share the view that WiFi in Fedora is very badly organized. >> As far as I am concerned the problem is not with drivers, >> but with the basic WiFi setup. >> >> Unfortunately I don't think NM is the answer. >> It adds another layer on top of everything else, >> and if something is wrong at the bottom >> this just adds to the confusion. >> >> Also, although this seems to be a minority view, >> I think NM tries to do far too much. >> Basically, I have no problem at all with ethernet, ever, >> and don't really want anything "improving" on my setup. >> And the problems I meet with bluetooth >> are nothing to do with the issues dealt with by NM. > Ah. So you think that Network Manager is the problem? I don't think NM is the problem. I find it quite nice to use if there is no WiFi problem, which is probably most of the time for most people. When I find it is no use, and actually a hindrance, is if there is a problem, since NM tends to obscure the source of the problem. > If I understand it > correctly they, Fedora developers, are working on a replacement for > Network Manager. I'm glad to hear that. Really, I would be perfectly happy if config-system-network and its GUI counterparts worked as advertised, and perhaps gave out a bit more information if requested. Also the "profiles" need sorting out. This has been bad for years. I really think the job should be passed on to someone else, or maybe the developers should take on some new blood.