On Sun, 2007-11-11 at 00:52 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > John Summerfield wrote: > > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > >> Ya. I meant tied to a any particular desktop environment. > > > > Until that's undone, it's not going to be very useful to me. I have two > > desktop computers with PCI wireless cards, one's acting as a relay. I > > have three Linux laptops with wireless, one's acting as a relay. Any of > > the others might have both interfaces active at any time, and there's no > > guessing which (if either) should be the gateway to the Internet. > > > > None of my Linux laptops and only one of the wireless desktops boots to > > runlevel 5. > > Then just use iwconfig and forget about NM? Maybe he wants the additional functionality or flexibility presented by NM (not saying this is the case, just postulating) - What I don't understand is why it is so hard for you to acknowledge that someone might what to try benefit from NM in a non-graphical environment. Just telling users to suck it up and use something else instead is very dismissive. Chris