On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 11:03 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > Res wrote: > > > Just to add to this, I will always take far more notice of a poster with > > a redhat.com address then one of the several fedora addresses getting > > around. > > That's nice. But, even those with redhat.com addresses are not > spokespersons for Red Hat and what they say can never be construed as gospel > or policy. I even recall several employees of Red Hat posting from their > personal addresses since they recognized that posting from their Red Hat > accounts could be taken as if they spoke for Red Hat. > > Now, all that I perceive is the following: > > 1. Fedora is a trademark of Red Hat, Inc. The Fedora Project is not a > supported product of Red Hat, Inc. > > 2. Fedora is a set of projects, *sponsored* by Red Hat and guided by the > Fedora Project Board. These projects are developed by a large community of > people who strive to provide and maintain the very best in free, open source > software and standards. > > 3. lilo was dropped from Fedora and is also being dropped from the upcoming > RELv5. As to the exact "why"? I don't have any insight but suspect it was > decided with the Fedora Project Board and Red Hat. > > 4. There is only one person developing/supporting lilo, John Coffman. > > 5. You like lilo and totally dislike grub. > > 6. You have been offered the chance to take up the post of maintainer for > lilo in Fedora as a contributor to Fedora Extras. It seems you're not > really interested in becoming a contributor but prefer to remain part of the > "those that can't, bitch" contingent. > > 7. By your own admission the only time you post to the list is " when I get > bored, or feel a comment is warranted". > > 8. People "complain" and people get "attacked" on this list and other > lists. Generally, those who complain don't do so in a constructive manner. > Generally, those who attack have become defensive and/or overreact. > > On a personal note, I do not use Fedora, Ubuntu, Gentoo, Slackware, Debian, > and others in a production environment and it is unlikely I ever will. I > will play with them but that's about it. All this attack stuff is very interesting but Res's point if it can be expanded is as follows: When Rahul posts he should make it clear if he is posting as an individual or as a member of the Fedora Project Board. Personally I get tired of people saying that Fedora is not a RedHat product. Repeat to self the motto: If it walks as a duck ..... -- Aaron Konstam <akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>