On Thu, 2006-11-23 at 09:40 -0600, Mike McGrath wrote: > On 11/23/06, James Wilkinson <fedora@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Bruno Wolff III <bruno@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Mike: what *I'm* getting from this is two basic principles: > > > > * "silent phone home" is Bad and Wrong. But users who use yum should > > expect that their computers will contact the Internet. This should be > > made more explicit. > > No where have I ever even mentioned silent phone home, that was > brought up on the list. >From http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Metrics: <cite> Phone Home Phoning home is one of the most obvious methods for determining what > installations are out there. The idea is simple, place an image in the home page for Firefox, have yum contact a single site for its mirror list (it already does), have Anaconda dial home during an install, have a nightly cron job contact a central server, etc. </cite> > Its not even mentioned in the RFC in the link > I sent. We're not interested in doing any trickery. We're going to > be as transparent about this as possible. Well, what I read above doesn't necessarily match with what you write here, or at least leaves a lot of room for nit-picking: As I read it, you are proposing to trick users by trapping them into a default firefox URL. If you were transparent, you'd instead set the default "default url" to a local file and let this contain a "count me" button, directing to a @redhat.com address, or not do so at all. BTW: AFAIS, there is another similar "silent trickery" lurking in firefox: Its "check for updates" feature seems to be enabled by default, which causes it to "silently phone home" to mozilla.org. Ralf
