Tim: >> Blocking an entire country's TLD *is* a racist act. Res: > and now from your previous childish rant, Trying to win an argument by claiming your opponent is being childish because they won't cave into your view, is a rather poor way at trying to win it. What I see as childish, here, is you trying to justify racist-like behaviour and claiming that it isn't. > i am also now a racist because I block entire ISP domains Yes, that's the very definition of being prejudicial, since you want to be pedantic about what YOU think the term racist means. Whether you want to be pedantic about "racist" being only a specific race is being wet. There isn't a "countryist" similar term. If you're prejudiced against an entire country, that's seen as a racist act by those in that country. Likewise, is advocating that response. Whether that be Korea, Russia, or any other commonly believed by be spam source. If you blocked the whole of my country, I'd regard it the same way, whether I was Black, Caucasian, Yellow, or whatever. And you'll find that most citizens of any country will feel similarly. > Tim, are you a spammer? maybe you are (since having such a hissy fit) > one of the ones i justifiably block access to, who knows because im > not about to tell you what network I manage, but those who furiously > argue the point of black lists, tend to be. No, I'm not. And I'd be first in line buying $5 a punch tickets to beat up a spammer. Quite frankly, if I were, this would be the least of my worries, there's a plethora of ways to circumvent that lame attempt at dealing with spam. But it's next to impossible to do legit internet activity when some idiot sabotages the internet by making certain top level domains unworkable. Incompetent admins, who cannot manage spam properly, and resort to carte blanche blocking, ARE another problem in themselves. Likewise for any other seriously stupid ideas they implement about how to tell apart spam from non-spam. It takes a hell of a good two-by-four whacking over their head to make them realise that what they do is NOT a good solution, it's clear that you need quite a lot more. Yes, the very notion of black lists is flawed, the implementation of them even more so. -- (Currently testing FC5, but still running FC4, if that's important.) Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists.