On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 16:59 -0600, Jeff Vian wrote: > On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 12:01 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 14:47 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > > > > > >In fact, RH, FESCO and the FF are dictating the "rules of the game as > > > >they want them to be" and it's up to users and contributors to decide > > > >how far to respect these rules and to apply/use the resources these > > > >organizations provide. > > > > > So you choose to not trust the foundation, all the community members at > > > FESCO or Red Hat itself. I would suggest contributing to a project that > > > you trust instead. Good luck. > > Seems to me as if you haven't understand a glimpse of what I am saying. > > > > Therefore let me try to elaborate: Like all other OSS projects, Fedora > > is based on users', developers' and sponsoring/financing organs' > > opinions and objectives are sufficiently intersecting. These parties own > > genuine interests are irrelevant to the other parties. > > > > Your point is exactly what Rahul has been saying. Not quite: RH is dictating and seem to expect all others to swallow. What I say: OSS projects are give and take. If what others give (here: RH) is non-interesting from an individual's perspective (here: me, rsp. those who want FC3 to be continued), the whole project becomes non-interesting to an individual. I don't deny Rahul is contributing something. The question to me are: How much about RH's work is "community oriented" and how much about RH's work wouldn't have be done if Fedora wasn't "community oriented", and how much about Fedora is a marketing hype? > If you want to make a difference, step up to the plate and assist the > project. In case you don't know: I maintain ca. 50 packages in FE and reviewed many others. > If you are not willing to do that, then you are relegating yourself to > the field of those users who are only interested in what is already > available in a format someone else has created. C.f. above - I am "demanding", because "I gave". Ralf