On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 20:46:53 -0500, Clint Harshaw wrote: > Beartooth wrote: >> I used galeon for years, till it began to get slow, and went back to it >> when firefox did. My browsers typically run faster when newly updated, >> and slow gradually down; if I can, I keep galeon, opera, and firefox >> all open > > This seems odd -- are you regularly clearing out the cache? Errr... Duhhhh.... and also Blither. Also Damn. That's one thing I keep forgetting -- partly because I'm a packrat, and shirk it. I wish the browsers would let you see how much you have, or otherwise thin out, without having to edit a file manually, line by line. I did it just now, and both Opera and Firefox do seem faster. But there's a cost. The browser no longer keeps track, on the web forums I follow, which posts I've read and which I haven't. > I haven't ever experienced the gradual slowing down you describe, but I > hope we can find a solution to your issue. Have you tried strace on any > of the browsers to see if there is some output that could be helpful > there for troubleshooting? ===== [root@localhost btth]# strace opera -bash: strace: command not found [root@localhost btth]# ===== So I checked : ===== [root@localhost root]# man strace No manual entry for strace [root@localhost root]# rpm -q strace package strace is not installed [root@localhost root]# ===== I had barely, if ever heard of strace. I did try google linux, and found a long but seemingly readable exposition at http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man1/strace.1.html > I'm not entirely clear on this desktop setup -- are you really saying > that you have at lease three browsers open at all times, each with 10-20 > pages being rendered? So at any time, there are at least between 30 and > 60 different web pages being actively displayed? Not at all. On my panel is a workspace switcher with six boxes. Each one, when clicked on, gives me what amounts to a fresh desktop, or at least looks like one. One for my terminal, doing email and administrative stuff; one for each browser; one for my newsreader; and one with a terminal using a special profile -- a font small enough to make man pages format properly. And, of course, with tabs each browser only actually displays one site at a time, if any; the chief benefits of tabbing, to me at least, are that I can close a browser with unread sites open, and have them still there next time; and that I can open my weather and forum sites more or less simultaneously, without chasing down a lot of bookmarks. > How much RAM are you running? Well, I thought the hardware browser would check that for me, and it doesn't. I had as much added as each machine would hold recently; I think it's 512 on one and 384 on the other. >> I hit dependency hell trying to install galeon on my current athlon FC1 >> desktop, and just get along without it. Since the installation on the >> backup p2 still has a working galeon, I use it there. > > Gnome's moved to epiphany for its browser, for reasons that I don't > recall, and I don't believe galeon comes with FC2. But there are > available rpm's for galeon (you should be able to grab the rpm from > Dag's site) that are compatible with moz 1.7.3. Been there, tried that, alas! I installed mozilla into FC1, from the Fedora Legacy site; galeon-1.3.14-0.a.rhfc1.dag.i386.rpm failed to install; galeon-1.3.14-1.a.dmist.i386.rpm failed to install; galeon-1.3.17-3.i386.rpm claimed to have installed -- but tries to open when I click on the launcher, and then fails. rpm -q mozilla gives mozilla-1.4.3-1.fc1.1.legacy Have I gotten the wrong rpm from Dag, or ...?? Incidentally, I asked this also this morning on gmane's galeon list; no reply there yet, either ... -- Beartooth Autodidact, curmudgeonly codger learning linux Remember I know precious little of what I'm talking about!