On Nov 9, 2003, Axel Thimm <Axel.Thimm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Fedora Extras is yet to emerge (possibly at FC2 test releases). Err... You mean yet to emerge as in from Fedora.us? Look again. The repository is already there. So is livna extras. And so is lisas extras. Meanwhile, ATrpms and Freshrpms are building their Fedora repositories without splitting packages into Extras and Alternatives, which I think is going to make them unusable for a large number of users. Please reconsider. > It isn't clear to me whether this will be one repo or a general > description of Red Hat hosted repos (like Fedora Extras High > Performance, Fedora Extras Engineering etc.). Meanwhile, repositories like yours could be filling the gap. However, since you don't follow the Extras/Alternatives separation, they can't fit easily into the Fedora nomenclature other than simply as Third Party repositories. I'd like to see more repositories offering Extras, and Alternatives only in smaller repositories, such that I don't end up being nagged by RHN to update Mozilla to 1.5 just because I want to use Dag's ccache, distcc and mozilla-j2re. Also, if I choose to use his Mozilla 1.5, I don't end up having to update say epiphany as well (or risking missing updates, if I tell the RHN applet to not update it automatically). I can see that the same reasoning could be used for Extras as well. Say, if I'd like (for whatever reason) to use livna's mplayer, I wouldn't like freshrpms' or ATrpms' mplayer to be installed with up2date -u. All in all, this is a limitation of up2date, that won't let me filter channels according to my preferences. Something for the up2date wishlist, I guess. Meanwhile, I think splitting repositories into a finer granularity is the best way to accomplish this. Unfortunately, I see this places an additional burden on the volunteers that run such repositories, so... Oh, well... Thanks for reading this far :-) -- Alexandre Oliva Enjoy Guarana', see http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat GCC Developer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} CS PhD student at IC-Unicamp oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist Professional serial bug killer