James McKenzie wrote: > Bill Davidsen wrote: >> And if you run Radeon chipsets which worked with FC6 and FC9, should you expect >> that the developers would spend time on gamer features like 3D and compiz while >> long time users run in text mode or VESA mode at best? Not everyone can throw >> away what was a pretty decent laptop when it gets to be three years old. >> >> > And WHY should AMD/ATI support old hardware? They ain't selling anymore. > I guess because they want customers to be happy and disposed to buy new. In any case, the vendor driver works and the open source doesn't, so I would suppose that since it was working they just didn't bother to break it. > ATI support is, mostly, on a paid basis and funded for current AMD/ATI > products. > > The current version of the Catalyst drivers does not and should not > support my 10 year old laptop with an ATI Rage Mobility 3 2xAGP > adaptor. Nor do I expect them to do so. > The vendor driver supports my three year old Radeon chip, the current Fedora driver offers text mode and some VESA capabilities. >> Lately it feels as if developers are not adding features but breaking or >> removing support as well, as though there were some limit on the number of >> chipsets which can work. >> >> > Again, if I worked as a developer for a company that was paying my > bills, I would do what they tell me. > I think you are missing the point, the vendor drivers seem to work, the open source don't. > This is true for nVidia, AMD/ATI and Intel. What makes them money is > what they will support. Ever check the difference in Windows versus > Linux support? Linux lags severely in several functions across the > board. Windows gamer users are a major source of their money and sales > in high end video cards. Linux users are not. > > Them's the facts folks. You cannot short the developers on FOSS > projects, you have to look at the manufacturers as well. > > BTW, this applies to ANY of the 'non-Windows' operating systems that > rely on developers to create drivers for the device. > -- Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines