> The OP has a point however inept he is at getting it across. The problem > is larger because it is his expectation that Fedora is apparently > supposed to provide him with some level of software stability that is at > odds with the development speed, the release early and often philosphy, > the 'leading edge' philosophy that Fedora has embraced to help drive > development. Obviously you understand that there are 'stable' releases > out there that don't churn every 6 months, that don't latch onto the > latest versions of xorg, pulseaudio, glibc, etc. and all the attendant > issues caused by newer versions but the OP doesn't get it at all. Exactly. The OP is expecting from Fedora what it is not; and what Ubuntu is not, in spite of its upcoming "LTS" release. F12 and U 9.10 were released a few weeks apart and they both had the same teething problems (with Ubuntu having the extra burden of grub2 - whose bugs had been mostly ironed out by release time - but with which the users were totally unfamiliar). What the OP seems to want is some Fedora version of CentOS or Debian Stable... -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines