I'm curious how many current KDE users we have - what percent of our install base? And what percent of the desktop install base ? Since the 3.5 -> 4.0 KDE pushathon, everyone I know who was a KDE user (myself included, and Linus too!) switched to gnome and none has yet gone back. At least a part of the fuss about updates seems to be driven by KDE wanting to be faster paced than the rest - I'm curious what percent of our install base this actually represents today? For me there were only 2 things disruptive I presently recall - the last was F11 kmail no longer working after recent update - and the devastatingly bad 3.5 -> 4.0 premature release. I actually like the current general pace - its stable but we get decent flow (tho it has slowed somewhat over the 12-18 months or so it seems) of upstream updates/bug fixes and largely when appropriate larger version bumps. Tho things like firefox lag too much imho - but I no longer care as I now use chrome which is way way better. Sure there are little hiccups here and there but overall things are non-disruptive and decently up to date - and that is the right balance. Congrats fedora management, redhat and contributors - and thank you. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines