Re: F8 update kills KDE

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On Sun, 2008-04-20 at 14:08 -0400, David Boles wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sun, 2008-04-20 at 10:27 -0400, David Boles wrote:
> >> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 2008-04-19 at 20:23 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I don't know if it's actually *possible* to install Fedora without
> >>> Gnome, but I take your point.
> >>
> >> You can install Fedora and chose to not install the GNOME desktop. Since GNOME 
> >> is the default you have to actively chose *not* to install it. You have to 
> >> uncheck the box.
> >>
> >>
> >>> Fair enough. My original post was in answer to a question about whether
> >>> KDE was a "second-class citizen" in Fedora, which is why I didn't
> >>> mention other desktops, but of course the same comments apply to them as
> >>> well.
> >>
> >> Fedora has a very active team that works on KDE. Calling KDE "a "second-class 
> >> citizen" in Fedora" would hurt their feeling I would think.  ;-)
> > 
> > Well we can't have that can we :-) Seriously though, I don't doubt the
> > efforts put into KDE by Fedora people. My comment (yet again ...) is
> > that many people on this list, and at least some of those responsable
> > for the Fedora docs, simply assume that the desktop is Gnome. In fact
> > we've even had examples today of "select whatever" or "click on xxx"
> > without the qualifying "under Gnome". If anyone said "select whatever"
> > or "click on xxx" where whatever and xxx were KDE features, and didn't
> > mention KDE explicitly, we'd hear all about it.
> > 
> > That's all.
> 
> 
> Hmm... Okay as clearly as I think that I say this. KDE, GNOME, XFCE, etc, are 
> desktops. Fedora is an OS. Different animals completely.
> 
> No configuration applications in Fedora, that I know of, require any desktop 
> at all. When someone suggests that 'you go here and run this app' they are 
> *looking* at their install. Fedora appears to have gone to great links to make 
> the menus the same so that the 'you go here and run this app' suggestions work 
> no matter what desktop you chose.
> 
> And it would be nice if we, all of us, could get over this 'you're picking on 
> my Desktop' thing. Linux is about choice. Pick what you like and go with it. 
> I, myself, like GNOME. But I don't 'hate' KDE. I choose to use GNOME. You like 
> KDE? Go for it.  ;-)

Seems people want to read into my post something which isn't there. I'm
afraid there's not much I can do about that.

poc

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