On Sat, 2008-04-19 at 20:23 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote: > --- Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Sat, 2008-04-19 at 12:00 -0700, Antonio Olivares > > wrote: > > > --- Ric Moore <wayward4now@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > On Sat, 2008-04-19 at 11:39 -0430, Patrick > > > > O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 2008-04-19 at 13:09 +0000, Kevin > > Kofler > > > > wrote: > > > > > > max <maximilianbianco <at> gmail.com> > > writes: > > > > > > > I wish I had something useful to offer > > here > > > > but I tried KDE on Fedora > > > > > > > when I first loaded F7. Second class > > ctizen. > > > > It appears that is still > > > > > > > the case. Perhaps the Fedora KDE lovers > > are > > > > not vocal enough... > > > > > > > > > > > > That's not true. What he ran into was just a > > bug > > > > (which should be fixed > > > > > > already, crossing fingers). > > > > > > > > > > It's true to the extent that many people > > > > (including RedHat people) > > > > > assume one is using Gnome, and most or all of > > the > > > > documentation also > > > > > makes this assumption, especially when > > explaining > > > > how to do stuff from > > > > > the GUI. It's fair to say that Fedora is a > > > > Gnome-centred distro that > > > > > *also* supports KDE. > > > > +1 for KDE!!! Ric > > > > > > > I hate to disagree with you guys on this one. KDE > > is > > > also given equal treatment in my own humble > > opinion. > > > Fedora is so committed to getting working that KDE > > > 4.0.3 is on Rawhide and while things might not be > > > trouble free in KDE, it is somewhat looking good. > > > > In no way did I want to: > > > > a) Say anything at all about KDE 4, because I've > > only tried it briefly > > on a Live CD. > > > > b) Start a discussion about the technical merits of > > KDE vs Gnome. > > > > If that's what you think my comment was about, I'm > > afraid you missed the > > point. I stand by what I said already. This is not a > > technical argument, > > it's about the orientation of both the Fedora docs > > (official and > > unofficial) and a fair amount of the traffic on this > > list. Unless the > > topic is specifically about some KDE issue, the > > underlying assumption is > > that one is using Gnome. In other words, Fedora is a > > Gnome-oriented > > distro that also supports KDE. > > > > poc > > > > -- > > fedora-list mailing list > > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe: > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > > > > Agree :) Like Ric said this is not a KDE vs Gnome > discussion. Although I expressed my opinion about how > things are going right now. I know that your last > statement has very strong sentiments, but the tide is > turning and there are many users here that prefer KDE > and would not install Gnome for anything in the world. I don't know if it's actually *possible* to install Fedora without Gnome, but I take your point. > I cannot show by statistics that they are equal and > receive equal treatment, but I know that both are > being worked on hard by the developers and that yes > > Fedora is a Gnome-oriented distro that also supports > KDE. You should add that XFCE is also joining the > mix, thanks to Rahul who also produced a installable > Xfce livecd and shared it with us so that users with > slow machines could still install Fedora but not with > KDE or Gnome. Throught these efforts Fedora is > becoming better and better. Fair enough. My original post was in answer to a question about whether KDE was a "second-class citizen" in Fedora, which is why I didn't mention other desktops, but of course the same comments apply to them as well. Cheers poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list