On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 11:58:43PM +0000, Timothy Murphy wrote: > I don't think John Linville's "Just do what I say, > and don't ask questions" is an adequate substitute. Give me a break. Are you so bored that you have nothing better to do than to pick fights on mailing lists? All I asked was that people should try NetworkManager first. If it works (which it will for most people in most situations) then it is the easiest possible way to get wireless working. If you really _want_ to do things the hard way, then feel free to figure things out -- I'm certainly not stopping you. But it seems to me that you just want to whine about because I tried to give people an easy first step instead of pointing them at a stack of HOWTOs and telling wishing them luck. Now, do you have a specific problem or question about wireless with which you want help? Or do you just want to complain that I dared to try to put people on the easy path to working wireless? John -- John W. Linville linville@xxxxxxxxxx