I'm posting this message to no one in particular, in hopes that it becomes part of the common lore... Please, as the first step in trying to get wireless working on Fedora, before you do anything else, please just try: service NetworkManager start Please note that I said to try that _first_. Specifically, "first" does not mean "after I ran system-config-network" or "after I started wpa_supplicant" or even "after I tried to configure things manually". "First" means _first_. Please? John -- John W. Linville linville@xxxxxxxxxx
