On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 03:37:12PM +0000, Timothy Murphy wrote: > John W. Linville wrote: > > > Please, as the first step in trying to get wireless working on Fedora, > > before you do anything else, please just try: > > > > service NetworkManager start > > > > Please note that I said to try that _first_. Specifically, "first" > > does not mean "after I ran system-config-network" or "after I started > > wpa_supplicant" or even "after I tried to configure things manually". > > "First" means _first_. > > Why? > What difference does it make if you try NM first or second? Obviously you aren't reading other threads... Quite often someone will create a mess trying all the hard ways to get wireless working before they try NetworkManager. Too often they don't clean-up after their failed attempts, resulting in a nightmare of conflicting wireless configuration options all trying to control the wireless device at the same time. Why create a mess trying the hard stuff, when you can at least try the easy way first? > Personally, I just want a WiFi application that works. > I don't care what it is. If you "don't care what it is", then you shouldn't object to my suggestion of which to try first. > I'll use the first one I come across that works. Fine...try NetworkManager first. John -- John W. Linville linville@xxxxxxxxxx