On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 18:25 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Frode Petersen <fropeter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Henning Larsen skrev: > > > > > Is there any initiative from anyone to get rid of these problems. I > > > don't want gnome, I don't want KDE, but I want krename and nautilus. > > > > > > Could those and other programs get freed from KDE/Gnome? > > > > > > I thought Linux is about openness not lockin like it is now. > > > > > > Henning Larsen > > > > > > > Some years ago there actually was an initiative launched, intended to > > come up with an environment-neutral target for development, so that > > programs written towards that target would run on the gui on the user's > > computer without the need to pull inn things from the other one. It > > still exists: > > > > http://portland.freedesktop.org/wiki/ > > > > I don't remember how long ago it started up, but I perceive it as being > > quite a few years ago. I believe it was either FSF (Free Software > > Foundation) or OSDL (Open Source Development Labs) that started it. > > (They are now merged into The Linux Foundation). > > > > Considering the original intent if the project, and all the years that > > have passed since it's inception, I don't think that their achievements > > have been remarkable. I guess KDE and Gnome proved to be too fast moving > > targets to keep up on two fronts. > > > > I really wish they had succeeded! > > Why? > because it would be nice to install one package if we want one program, and remove one package to get rid of that program. I think you understand that argument. Henning