On Sat, 2008-02-23 at 08:35 +1030, Tim wrote: > On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 15:01 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > > I do wish I had the choice to have a gnome free (as in `rpm -qa | grep > > gnome` returns no results). > > I wish the opposite, KDE free... But leaving that war aside for the > moment, it is annoying anytime that you come across an application that > depends on you having a particular GUI system. Even more so when you > don't have it installed. It'd be far less annoying if it could just > draw windows, use sound, etc., etc., from whatever system you're using. > > In the past I'd had a bit of a play with some of the more lightweight > window managers, only to discover how pointless that was the moment you > fired up some application that made use of Gnome or KDE. You had a big > wait while all that baggage was loaded. And it makes your system > sluggish, negating the benefit of using a lighter weight system. Not to > mention if you fired up an application that decided it needed to take > over your desktop. > Is there any initiative from anyone to get rid of these problems. I don't want gnome, I don't want KDE, but I want krename and nautilus. Could those and other programs get freed from KDE/Gnome? I thought Linux is about openness not lockin like it is now. Henning Larsen