On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:30:21 -0500, Robert L Cochran wrote: > Why not just do a clean install of Fedora and be happy with the yum > update defaults? Don't change them if doing so will cause you such > distress. They work most of the time (although Fedora 8 seems to have a > yum-updatesd issue that you can fix by turning it off in chkconfig, > rebooting the machine, and then doing a manual 'yum update' from the > command line. Because, as I keep saying, I run pirut. Repeatedly. There are a lot of things -- like *all* games, *all* chat software, and anything connected with television -- which I don't want, and which yum won't remove. There are also a few that I do run, but either can't get from yum, or know the names of only well enough to recognize them when I see them. Pirut lets me make those changes. -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Fedora 8; Alpine 0.99999, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6; Dillo 0.8.6, Galeon 2.0.3, Epiphany 2.20, Opera 9.24, Firefox 2.0 Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about.