I've currently got F8 on four out of five machines, and willprobably do the fifth any day now. I run yum update often in the early weeks of a new release. Today all machines but one (my main one, of course) have done little or no updating; and all have been doing much the same on any one day. (I have slightly different selections of software from machine to machine -- very slightly.) Then the main one hit some snag with curl-devel dependencies. So I told yum to remove that, and carefully kept a list of things it took with it, so as to put them back shortly. Then I told it you update again. It's in process of downloading 523 -- no typo : five hundred twenty three -- 523 items. What in the blue blazes have I done? Is the whole shebang about to implode before my eyes?? -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about.