On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 21:02 -0500, David Boles wrote: > John Summerfield wrote: > > David Boles wrote: > > > >> > >> Do you know of, can you name, another distro where "Wireless" does not > >> "sucks"? Just curious here because I thought that this a Linux, in > >> general, driver problem caused by proprietary drivers and not just the > >> fault of Fedora. > > > > > > I know that Ubuntu went to considerable trouble to get Ubuntu working > > well on laptops a two or three releases ago. I do not know the status of > > wireless on Ubuntu, but I suspect it's been better in other respects > > (power management, hibernation) on laptops for a while. > > > > I know wireless on opensuse 10.2 sucks pretty badly, but I really can't > > say whether other distros do it better or worse. > > > > Not knowing, I crossed out Linux and substituted Fedora. > > > > > > In this case, I'm assuming working drivers; I have Atheros-based cards > > and I can get a working driver for them. Having done that, on Fedora, > > wireless still sucks. > > > > And my statement is an observation, not an attribution of blame. > > Attributing blame just gets arguments, but anyone who extols the wonders > > of Linux wireless networking to a Windows or OS X user deserves derision. > > > I was not trying to be 'nasty' John. I asked because I was/am curious. > My boss wants me to start using a laptop, I do not like laptops, never > have, but I was looking for some Linux information. The last laptop I > 'had' my secretary nicknamed 'David's paperweight ;-) because that is > what I used it for mostly. > > As near as I can tell - if you want problems use certain WiFi devices > and any Linux. Really want problems? Use something, anything, assembled > by Dell. I do not know why but those seem to be the start of most > problems and/or complaints that I have read. > > I gather that the WiFi problem is lack of drivers? Which, as I read, is > a problem with Vista too. The manufacturers waited too long to provide > Microsoft with generic drivers or to write their own 'good'drivers. > Video drivers too. It seems that Linux drivers are few and far between. > > As for Dell? I read it is poorly supported, inexpensive hardware, that > is their major problem. Again this I do *not* know. I have never owned, > or used, anything Dell. I only know what I have read and what I have > been told by others. > > Your thoughts on any of this? My DELL Latitude D810 works flawlessly wired and wireless. I own 4 Dells and they all work except the 2000 Optiplex which worked until FC6 came along. After that f7 and Ubuntu refused to recognise its audio card. -- ======================================================================= Your mind is the part of you that says, "Why'n'tcha eat that piece of cake?" ... and then, twenty minutes later, says, "Y'know, if I were you, I wouldn't have done that!" -- Steven and Ondrea Levine ======================================================================= Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx