On Sun, 2007-11-11 at 09:23 +0900, John Summerfield wrote: > Chris Jones wrote: > > On Sun, 2007-11-11 at 00:52 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> John Summerfield wrote: > >>> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >>>> Ya. I meant tied to a any particular desktop environment. > >>> Until that's undone, it's not going to be very useful to me. I have two > >>> desktop computers with PCI wireless cards, one's acting as a relay. I > >>> have three Linux laptops with wireless, one's acting as a relay. Any of > >>> the others might have both interfaces active at any time, and there's no > >>> guessing which (if either) should be the gateway to the Internet. > >>> > >>> None of my Linux laptops and only one of the wireless desktops boots to > >>> runlevel 5. > >> Then just use iwconfig and forget about NM? > > > > Maybe he wants the additional functionality or flexibility presented by > > NM (not saying this is the case, just postulating) - What I don't > > understand is why it is so hard for you to acknowledge that someone > > might what to try benefit from NM in a non-graphical environment. > > > > Just telling users to suck it up and use something else instead is very > > dismissive. > > Thanks Chris. > > Wireless on Fedora sucks, and it seems it will suck for time to come. > First wireless works flawlessly for me on my laptop with f7. Not working is more a function of the wireless hardware not fedora. Second, on what version of Linux are you satisfied with the wireless behavior? -- ======================================================================= "Floggings will continue until morale improves." -- anonymous flyer being distributed at Exxon USA ======================================================================= Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx