Tim: >> It's really an unnecessary convolution, just adding more chances of >> getting it wrong. There's too many variables for any one author to >> know about, and too many compromises to have to make. Craig White: > It's not an unnecessary convolution...it's a reality. > > It's clear that you know nothing about designing web sites because > there is browser & OS specific code on most professionally designed > web sites...that's a fact. You would know that if you did serious web > design. Nice try at being insulting, but in kind: stick your head back up your arse. It is clear that you know nothing about me. a: It is unneccessary to go changing fonts. Wanted, perhaps, still unneccessary. And, shall we say, "fucking stupid" to set text that needs to be read to minimum sizes. b: I do know about designing websites, I've been writing them for years. Ones that work on all browsers, without needing conditional coding. I am well aware of font issues, which is a whole other matter than playing silly buggers with scripting, Java, and layout. Once you get into conditional programming, you make this common mistake: Is browser MSIE or Netscape? Then it's X... Whether it's an if/then/else, or has a few others in the middle of the conditional list, it's *never* complete, and is virtually guaranteed to serve somebody with crap, that would have otherwise served *everyone* better with just one set of standard, correct, pages. -- [tim@bigblack ~]$ uname -ipr 2.6.22.9-91.fc7 i686 i386 Using FC 4, 5, 6 & 7, plus CentOS 5. Today, it's FC7. Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists.