On Sun, 2007-10-14 at 05:35 -0600, Karl Larsen wrote: > Erich Zigler wrote: > > On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 11:32:11 -0600 Karl Larsen <k5di@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > >> I will not turn on SELinux again until I see a update for dbus. > >> It appears dbus is used only by SELinux. > >> > > > > Incorrect. dbus is not used by SELinux. dbus and SELinux do not > > depend or require each other. Many GNOME/GTK applications you are > > running on your machine require dbus. If you do a ps auxww | grep dbus > > right now you will see that it is running. > > > > D-Bus is a message bus system, a simple way for applications to talk > > to one another. In addition to interprocess communication, D-Bus helps > > coordinate process lifecycle; it makes it simple and reliable to code a > > "single instance" application or daemon, and to launch applications and > > daemons on demand when their services are needed. > > > > D-Bus supplies both a system daemon (for events such as "new hardware > > device added" or "printer queue changed") and a per-user-login-session > > daemon (for general IPC needs among user applications). Also, the > > message bus is built on top of a general one-to-one message passing > > framework, which can be used by any two apps to communicate directly > > (without going through the message bus daemon). Currently the > > communicating applications are on one computer, or through unencrypted > > TCP/IP suitable for use behind a firewall with shared NFS home > > directories. (Help wanted with better remote transports - the transport > > mechanism is well-abstracted and extensible.) > > > > Source: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/dbus > > > > For an incomplete list of applications that require dbus: > > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/DbusProjects > > > > Please please please do some research and googling before you try to > > pass off halfcocked misinformation to the list. This negatively impacts > > you, this list, and the community. It also affects the potential > > user/sysadmin googling for this same issue which comes upon your > > misinformation and decides to act on it. > > > > - Erich > > > > > I DID Google dbus and it came up with many but one was interesting > to me because it was another user having trouble with SELinux and he > found the same problem I have. He said the problem in dbus was fixed in > FC6 but is again a problem in F7. Hey, *I* googled that and told you about it. That writer also said that the message was harmless, other than filling the logs. In addition, I said that I don't see the message more than a few times in my normally operating system. I'm pretty sure that whatever is causing your major problems, this isn't it. Did you try my suggestion of relabeling and re-enabling SELinux? Did it help? > > Now. Due to the problem with dbus I can't use SELinux because it > uses dbus and has a problem with that. So your wrong with thinking > SELinux does not use dbus, It certainly does and that I can prove. > > > -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs