On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 11:32:11 -0600 Karl Larsen <k5di@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I will not turn on SELinux again until I see a update for dbus. > It appears dbus is used only by SELinux. Incorrect. dbus is not used by SELinux. dbus and SELinux do not depend or require each other. Many GNOME/GTK applications you are running on your machine require dbus. If you do a ps auxww | grep dbus right now you will see that it is running. D-Bus is a message bus system, a simple way for applications to talk to one another. In addition to interprocess communication, D-Bus helps coordinate process lifecycle; it makes it simple and reliable to code a "single instance" application or daemon, and to launch applications and daemons on demand when their services are needed. D-Bus supplies both a system daemon (for events such as "new hardware device added" or "printer queue changed") and a per-user-login-session daemon (for general IPC needs among user applications). Also, the message bus is built on top of a general one-to-one message passing framework, which can be used by any two apps to communicate directly (without going through the message bus daemon). Currently the communicating applications are on one computer, or through unencrypted TCP/IP suitable for use behind a firewall with shared NFS home directories. (Help wanted with better remote transports - the transport mechanism is well-abstracted and extensible.) Source: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/dbus For an incomplete list of applications that require dbus: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/DbusProjects Please please please do some research and googling before you try to pass off halfcocked misinformation to the list. This negatively impacts you, this list, and the community. It also affects the potential user/sysadmin googling for this same issue which comes upon your misinformation and decides to act on it. - Erich