David Boles wrote:
on 6/22/2007 2:50 PM, Karl Larsen wrote:
David Boles wrote:
on 6/22/2007 1:29 PM, Karl Larsen wrote:
David Boles wrote:
on 6/22/2007 5:04 AM, Karl Larsen wrote:
David Boles wrote:
on 6/21/2007 7:23 PM, Tim wrote:
On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 12:59 -0600, Karl Larsen wrote:
If you have either F7 or F6 with all the updates you will have a
Volume Control that is broken. When you click it up if your in the Alsa
mixer mode you on the right side a Microphone listed on the Playback
tab. This is wrong and if you look at the device below the Mike it shows
a speaker!
To use this bad system first turn up the Master and Master Mono to
the top and set Mike to the top. Now click File and select the TriTech
OSS Mixer.
Firstly, that "TriTech" bit only refers to your hardware. People with
different sound hardware will see something different.
Second, make a damn bugzilla report. We've all heard the same story
from you several times, this week. We know about it by now, you're not
doing anything constructive about it.
Karl - Please read this and listen. I am not writing this to be mean or
insulting in any way.
I have had FC-3, FC-4, FC-5, FC6, and FC-7 all installed one after the
other. At the same time I have always had rawhide (the development branch
of Fedora) installed too. And my mixers/volume controls have all worked
just fine.
So I really think that your problems are either your hardware or Pebkac.
Really. And if I had to bet I would bet on Pebkac.
Hi and first I have no idea what Pebkac is. I will try the man
pages. Second, the problem is NOT my hardware. This same hardware works
just fine if you don't upgrade the gstream software on FC6.
Finally it is not just my problem. There have been many on this list
say they see the same thing on F7. What your complaining about was an
effort I made to tell those using the Volume Control how to do it. And
yes most people have just one sound card. That being said how I wonder
do you adjust the mike gain?
Karl
Pebkac - _p_roblem _e_xists _b_etween _k_eyboard _a_nd _c_omputer. ;-)
It means that you don't know, don't understand, or both, what you are
doing. Which can be dangerous to your installation. You are using what is
called the 'shotgun' method. What does that mean? Think about using a
shotgun to try to kill a single housefly buzzing around your living room.
I can understand you frustrations. Truly.
And Gnome-Volume-Control, as you have been told by several people, has
absolutely nothing to do with audio volume. What does that mean? that you
are trying to solve your problem but twiddling with the wrong package.
From what you are describing you are looking at a KDE GUI audio mixer
application. And that I can not help you with because I do not use KDE.
David. In several cases I have called it the Gnome Volume Control. I
have today filed a bug. We do not need to beat this old horse again. It
is being worked on.
Karl
Well in that case I wish you luck. I use GNOME as my desktop and do not
have KDE, or any other desktop installed. All I can tell is that mine
works. The red 'X's you mentioned switch on and off with a single, simple
mouse click. And setting them on or off affects if the device they control
works or doesn't work.
Well David don't keep us in suspense, what version of Fedora and did
you apply all upgrades?
Karl
You really want to know? Sure. It, what you are having problems with, has
worked, for me, with FC-4, FC-5, FC-6, and Fedora 7. All the release
installs and with all the updates applied as they were released.
It also works, again for me, in Rawhide. Rawhide is the development
branch that eventually turns into the next release version. Rawhide
updates daily, Several 100 megs daily is a normal update for Rawhide.
Sometimes more. Sometimes less. It varies. Normal is four kernels a week
as an example.
Well that's a good story. Please let me be one who doesn't believe
you. This is because there are now 3 people working on the bug I wrote
today! I doubt that those working on the bugs are more stupid than you?
As for me, a simple PHD in EE in 1958, I have no idea how to fix
this problem. But playing with rawhide strikes me as not a good idea.
Karl
