Re: tons of spam

From: "Randy Vice" <damocles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Aaron Konstam wrote:

On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 09:09 -0400, Randy Vice wrote:

On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Ed Greshko wrote:

jdow wrote:

Chu - directing that at greshko might have been more appropriate.
"Ed" was most impolite for no good reason. "Scroom and the horse
he rode in on," would be a suitable reply for Ed's behavior.

I'm not sure about "no good reason". Somebody signs up for a mailing list with their "normal" email address and it gets harvested and they get more spam and then say the distribution is flawed based on that.....well it just

gets my goat.  The induhvidual blames everyone except themselves.

Let's not get into a tit for tat on "behavior" shall we. I can surely point out times where others "behavior" went over my line....or is it over your

line....or is it over some imaginary line....

The simple point I suppose I should have made is...you put your email

address on a public list and you expose yourself to spam. Should the email

list be responsible to protect you from your folly?  I think not.

It would nice if Fedora was to setup spam filters when someone selects
a SMTP to be installed.  Sort of like how IPtables is setup to be
installed and running at boot.

Randy

How about pointing out that Linux has spam fighting programs that can be
used?

That would be the preconfigured spam filters that would be installed when someone selects a SMTP to be installed. I'm more of a end user and the last time I attempted to configure sendmail to use a filter, I broke it. It maybe a simple process for those who are system admins, for some of us, it can be complicated vs just deleting tons of spam daily.

I may have some "sharp words" about the spam fighting tools that come with
FC7. I have little time to play with it. And it does not like my laptop.
So I have to download a bunch of debug files so I can track it down. (The
bug is in X-Windows so the gnome based folks want me to download and
install an unknown number of gnome debug files. Go figure. When I have
time I will humor them. But it's hard as heck to debug a frozen machine
that has kicked the display out the window, metaphorically speaking. The
SpamAssassin RPMS that came with FC4 and FC5 seemed to be incomplete when
I attempted to use them in the past. And for an effective SpamAssassin
install SOME mention of the Spam Assassin Rules Emporium is properly
required, as is mention of FuzzyOCR and a couple other gems.

(SARE is so effective it was included in the massive DDoS attack that
struck Spamhaus as well. Some spammer got REALLY peaved, po' baby.)