Re: Checking internet connection without a winbox

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Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Sun, 2006-07-02 at 20:17 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
On 02/07/06, Les Mikesell <lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Run traceroute to various places and note where the delays or
dropped packets start.  Normally you will see a response from
every router in the path and the round trip time for three
packets.  Some may block the ports used or the icmp response
so a '*' response isn't necessarily a problem, especially
if it picks up on subsequent hops.  Keep in mind that the
time is for the round trip and problems can happen in either
direction.  If you see consistent delays or drops happening
somewhere, paste the traceroute into an email to your ISP.

Thanks, Les. I started doing mtr, and discovered that the router is
dropping ~2% of the packets, the infrastructure is dropping ~14% of
the packets, and the ISP is dropping ~8% of the packets. all the other
hops are losing between 2% to 10% as well. What values are considered
normal? Thanks.

I'd say its normal, and expected when the mtr utility uses its default ping interval of 1 second. I controlled that by increaseing the ping interval to 5 seconds, at which point all the random losses (some as high as 40%) it reported before went away. 1 second to get all the responses from a site that may be 30 hops away is a very un-realistic assumption on the part of the mtr author, it does not match the real world when it is apparently throwing away any ping return more than 1 second old.

I'd make a SWAG that mtr, when checking the echo's, cuts the time permissible to recognize a legit echo down to that same second, and if its not back by then, its a packet loss. By increasing the ping times to 5 seconds, aka "mtr -i 5 location-to-ping" then all the packets do get back in time and the losses are then zero across the board. Now if mtr were to recognize a packet return as a packet from a previous ping, that would be much more realistic. But from the clues its giving, it is not checking for any packet thats not the result of the currently issued icmp ping.

Dotan Cohen
If you google internet transfer speed you should find sites that allow
you to test your upload and download speeds. I just did that and a site
with pitstop in its name, for example, provides that free service.
We all agree on the necessity of compromise. We just can't agree on when
it's necessary to compromise. -- Larry Wall
Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Cheers, Gene

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