On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 11:11, Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote: > > > > Linus is probably right, I should switch to KDE. > > Gnome is heading more and more towards a corporate desktop that is > affordable to maintain, support, and deploy. You'd think they would consolidate remote management if that were the case. It should be trivial to merge additional machines and control them in the manner of windows manager console since X apps already do everything remotely. But, it doesn't really work because of all the special cases that break X's native remote capability. > I don't like some of the decisions that Gnome devs have made, but I > think the rapid change is where most of the grief is coming from. I and > many others have difficulty adjusting too, so you're certainly not > alone. I wish the developers would work with more than one machine and use remote windows on a regular basis. This is the one capability where X has advantages compared to other systems and the desktop managers go out of their way to break it. I thought back in the days when Gnome was slow and clunky that it was worth it because they were doing things the right way, but it hasn't panned out that way. I don't see any way to get to the gnome menu system remotely without taking the whole desktop and even if you could, program startup behavior isn't all that predictable. For example if you try to start a remote firefox you may instead magically tell the one running on your local box to open a new window. That's as bizarre as a command line program deciding on its own not to inherit stdout whenever it feels like it. If you run konqueror in a remote window you can actually view the menus on the remote machine in the left panel (and thus I don't think adding the ability to merge remote machines into this view like WMC would be all that difficult), but if you start something that wants to run in a panel it may or may not do something reasonable. -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx