On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 06:33, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > I find it really really odd that you have problems with the qa of the > established release process, but yet you only trust the established > fedora project release team to provide the player images for users. I > smell a contradiction. No, from an outside viewpoint it all looks like a symptom of the same thing. If there is anyone within the project that cares about usability they need to do better maintenance. The effects of having a broken installer for the entire life of FC4 are the same as not providing a nice, easy test drive version in terms of user experience and opinions. An outsider would almost think that fedora management really doesn't want it to be a usable product that might compete with some other distribution. -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx