On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 03:32, Christofer C. Bell wrote: > > > > > I'm content to move to FC5, but it's not even released yet, and that is > > > the point of the argument. > > > > The point is that you are supposed to be testing the test releases, > > otherwise they don't accomplish anything. > > This is completely disingenuous. If the only "point" is to do nothing > other than test "testing" versions, then there is no "point" to having > a "release" version. If no one tests the testing version, nothing will change between it and the release version. > The test releases *do* accomplish something, > they are tested by those people interested in *testing* them. Ummm, yeah - I'll bet there are just a whole bunch of people out there whose favorite thing is to try to run software that probably won't work just so they can report bugs. > That's > not everyone (in fact, it's a very small minority). And that's a problem, because bugs don't get found until lots of people run the software under exactly the same conditions as they will in production and on all of the same hardware. > The full release > versions are for "everyone else" (that's FC1, FC2, FC3, and FC3, note > the lack of -test suffix). If it weren't for the users of release > versions, all your development efforts and testing are nothing more > than mental masturbation. The "point" is to get a released product > into the hands of end users wanting to get work done with it. That's not the point of the fedora project, although it has to be a side effect that keeps enough people using it. When all the problems that can be fixed in a version have been fixed, the project isn't accomplishing anything until the next release. -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx