On Mon, 2005-01-10 at 16:04, Pete wrote: > Rahul, please step back a moment, how would > you like to buy a new car, and have to rewire it, move things around, > etc, before you could drive it off the dealers lot. We've come a long > way, but whether you want to admit it or not, we have a long way to go. > Let's start walking, instead of claiming we don't need to go. The last thing everyone needs is a sendmail that accepts and forwards email without any configuration. I would hope that Windows exchange server also requires some configuration before it does that. Likewise, a package like Cyrus that does not assume that email users match local unix users can't possibly work until you tell it how to authenticate these users. If you can suggest a working default, please do. I'm all in favor of good defaults that work as-is for most users. I just can't think of one that would work for sendmail or cyrus. Maybe they could be built to require pam authentication with the same system stack for pam that everything else uses. But then you lose the cyrus advantage of not needing a unix login. But, I have to ask: if you want something that works with the default install, why are you using Cyrus instead of Dovecot? -- Les Mikesell les@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx