On Wed, November 24, 2004 11:16 am, Rodolfo J. Paiz said: Rodolfo, > You've quoted me out-of-context and incorrectly. My God, man, did you > really read my post? And did you notice that I was specifically > answering someone whose point was "let's go crush Nvidia and hurt their > sales"? I quoted you directly and correctly and I did read your post. > My point was that people should not set out in a crusade to boycott > Nvidia, since that is not the real goal. The goal is to get better > support and more open-source drivers. To do that, we should support > companies who *do* open-source the drivers, and we should demand and > clamor for those products and those drivers. After all, if a company > opens their driver and it doesn't help their sales, then they've gained > nothing, have they? So buy stuff that supports open source. My point was that I personally boycott Nvidia so I can see his point. Of course there's not much point in boycotting companies that don't produce produts for linux because, ummm, they wouldn't notice. > If, apart from working *positively* to get more support for the open- > source cause, someone feels compelled to go out on a crusade to destroy > a video-card maker, then I suggest that Nvidia is not the right target. > *You* don't need top-of-the-line capabilities, but others do. Must they > go back to Windows? Or do we want them to be able to use Linux? Because > I am not aware of any other company who offers a $500 video card that > has Linux drivers of any sort. Do you know of any? Sure, there's a small minority who actually need top-of-the-line 3D cards today. I think a large percentage of people don't need top-of-the-line capabilities. They should be warned that buying closed-source drivers is a risk that might end up with them having a card that no longer works under Linux. Any of these closed source providers might discontinue providing binary drivers any day. Then you have a $500 paper weight. > At the top end of the market, I am not aware of *any* company which > provides more Linux support than Nvidia. Corrections (factual!) welcome. > However, I *am* aware of several companies that provide no Linux support > whatsoever. So if you must crusade against someone, then start with the > worst "offenders". I submit that Nvidia is not the worst offender and > hence not an appropriate target for those so destructively-minded. I don't really play games but I've tested both Radeon 9200 and Intel open sourced drivers and they've been great at 3D. I'm not out to destroy Nvidia, nor am I out to promote them. There are better options for the vast majority of people, if that means less Linux business for Nvidia, so be it. Cheers, Sean