On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 02:49:45PM -0200, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On Nov 11, 2003, Axel Thimm <Axel.Thimm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> The idea (as I understand it) is that people want to easily have > >> add-on packages in their system without a risk that this might modify > >> core components. > > > E.g. choose their stability level. So let's use stability criterions. > > It's not really the same. > > One of the points is at the time of reporting a bug. Say I find a bug > in Mozilla, or in mplayer. Unless I can pinpoint which repository I > got Mozilla from, or the exact dependency of mplayer that caused the > bug, to figure out where I should report it, I'll be at a loss. That could be an issue, and that's why a well considered versioning scheme including origin tags (repotags) along with sane rpm -qi contents is needed (and already provided by almost all repos). > Being able to make sure that a certain package (along with all of its > dependencies) is part of the Core makes it simpler to assert whether a > bug is in the Core or not, as long as you stick to only Extras > repositories. Well, if bug reporting is the problem, then you first need to ban kernel modules and any plugin-like rpms (e.g. all xmms/gkrellm/mozilla plugins) as well into some non-Extras repository. Especially kernel modules can be nasty, but a non-starting mozilla due to mozilla-plugin-buggy also. So should we set up "Fedora Kernel Modules" and "Fedora Plugins"? Or better "Fedora Are-You-Sure-You-Want-THAT-rpm?"? ;) > As soon as you introduce Alternatives, any hopes of easily > identifying the source of a problem are gone, and this doesn't even > get into inter-repository compatibility problems. Are there any bugzilla entries referring to non-Red Hat repos at all (or any significant number less than 10 ;)? The problem would not be new, every non-RH repo I know of has been carrying upgrading components since its birth. So if this problem is not academic one would have the issues already today in bugzilla. But I think that most people taking their time to bugzilla do know where their packages came from. ;) The fact is, that most non-Core components can potentially destabilize the system in one way or another and moving parts out of Extras for bugzilla/stability whatever concerns will leave you with an empty "Extras" and a miriad of other banned subrepos. The splitting scheme is flawed, believe me! Where are the people that thought about this scheme? Why are they hiding? ;) -- Axel.Thimm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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