Re: Comments on bug 140214 - the removal of X utilities?

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Bryan Ischo wrote:

There is nothing about having xcalc, xbiff, xmessage, etc, that prevents
users from using alternatives if they want to.

X11 itself has been around for 20+ years - should Fedora Core get rid of
it because it's also old?


There are more then two calculators for linux.
If we don't cut old things similar but not better then new ones we lost innovation...


Fedora is used by both new users *and* experts. Why do you say that it's
not used by experts? I can see how one could easily say, "program X
should not be in the distribution", if one had such a narrow view of who
the target audience of the distribution is. But I don't have such a
narrow view of the target audience - I think Fedora Core is for
*everybody*.


I am a "power user" and I use fedora.
I want to say that most of fedora's audience is not expert. Newbies does not know that programs and most of them does not want to try other programs.


xbiff is not an email client, it's just an email notification program - it
watches your mailbox and tells you when new mail is available.  You don't
have to be running your mail program all the time just to wait for new
mail - xbiff will tell you when you have new mail and you can run your
mail program to read the new mail at that time.

Actually xbiff is more general than that - it can show a "status changed"
icon any time the status of a file or the status code of a program have
changed, but it is most usually applied to checking for new email. That's
how I've been using it for 10+ years now anyway.


As you can see I, that use linux from many years, does not know xbiff. How can, a newbye, knows it?

Thanks,
Bryan

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Bryan Ischo bryan@xxxxxxxxx N, R, 6
New York, NY, USA http://www.ischo.com RedHat Linux 7.3
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I'm only demonstrating that programs are not used...
bye


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