Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/22/2011 09:04 AM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: >> I mean this as a helpful guide to gaining credibility with devs, rather >> than as any sort of attack... > > That, alas, all depends on the devs and their attitude. I use the Pan > newsreader. The dev is a member of the support mailing list and listens > to the concerns of the users. Sometimes it's not practical for him to > change something, but when that happens, he explains why. He also makes > it clear that if you're able to work up a patch that does what you want > he'll be glad to look at it and fold it in if it doesn't cause other > problems. Alas, he's pretty burned out on the project and looking to > pass the torch. Compare that to the Gnome devs who avoid the help forum > for their project like the plague, and the Fedora devs who either don't > frequent their forum or do so incognito. Attitude matters. The people who ran the Prodigy (remember Prodigy vs. AOL?) help chat still have a help chat room, even though Prodigy is dead a decade. Some people enjoy helping troubled users. Obviously we help with Windows and Linux now, not the Prodigy services. -- Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines