On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 00:17:04 -0400, Máirín wrote: > On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 21:01 -0700, Alan Evans wrote: > > 2010/6/3 Máirín Duffy: > > > Do we want new users to witness this kind of behavior? They are directed > > > towards this list right now via a number of different pointers. My team > > > is planning to redesign the Fedora website for Fedora 14, and I'm not > > > sure we can in good conscience continue to point new users to this list > > > > Let me get this straight: You remove relevant, helpful links from one > > Fedora site page and the user community explodes with queries, > > comments, and complaints about the omission. Now your response to this > > feedback is to suggest that *more* relevant, helpful links be removed > > from another page? > > > > I would laugh, but I think that you're serious. > > I don't want to point people new to Fedora to a list with attitudes like > this and to come away with the notion that kind of treatment of people - > the dripping sarcasm, personal attacks, trolling - is representative of > Fedora. It's not. Maybe it's representative of this list (I haven't been > following it long enough to know for sure) but it is most certainly NOT > how things are done in Fedora. > > So yes, a link to list this may not actually be a relevant and helpful > link for new users. There is some good rationale above as to why I > believe this, and unfortunately the tone of your response provides > further support. Unfortunately, that's a message that does exactly the opposite of improving the climate. > > Not all of the feedback from this list was unconstructive. Not all of > > the responses were abusive or confrontational. But after reviewing the > > thread in question, I have to say that *many* of your responses were > > confrontational and many were, frankly, condescending. It didn't seem > > to matter whether the person you were replying to was trying to be > > constructive or snarky; your responses seemed designed to pour more > > fuel on the fire almost every time. > > This is an unfair personal attack, and is not constructive especially > given the topic of the thread. Please let's talk about making things > better, and stop pointing fingers and making accusations. Cool down. Alan has made some valid points. IMO. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
