On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 23:09 +0200, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > I thought torrent was precisely invented for this kind of purpose. I > also held the opinion that torrent is by far the number one method of > getting Fedora, or any other Linux distro for that matter. It isn't. Not even amongst current Fedora users. In the survey we did that informed this design, only 19% used torrents to get Fedora: http://mairin.wordpress.com/2009/08/27/getting-fedora-survey-results/ > It offers > the most efficient downloading speed while keeping the main servers > off too much load. Also, Windows users shouldn't be underestimated for > their knowledge of using torrent. Honestly? I care about getting the ISO. I really don't care how efficiently I get it. Saving 5 minutes doesn't matter a whole lot to me. And for me, with my internet connection - which I understand is probably better than a lot of folks' connections - that is the main time difference. > Removing the torrent from the download page is just a poor design > decision, IMHO. It's quite easy for you to say that not understanding all of the constraints and complications involved in the design. I would like to suggest that you either not say that if you don't know it to be true, or if you truly believe you are capable of making all of the difficult design decisions required to put together such a project that you join the Fedora design team and help out - if this is easy for you, we absolutely need your expertise. > People who get scared off by technical terminology on > a website offering a Linux operating system should probably be better > off using Windows or OS X anyway. Right, because Linux is only for 31337 newbies, and the middle school students I've been teaching Inkscape to have no right to download Fedora to use at home on their own - they are better off asking their parents to shell out thousands of dollars for Adobe products. Man. Why do we even bother working on Linux, anyway? I mean, most people are better off not using it anyway. Why bother? Wow, you've really woken me up. I think I'll go drop by the Apple store this weekend. > It doesn't make much sense to reduce > available choices and functionality of a website in order to fit to a > newbie frame of mind. I know people who are quite technically sophisticated and who have been using computers longer than I've been alive who don't know what torrent is nor care what it is. Just because someone doesn't know about the jargon that you know doesn't mean they are 'newbie' or even non-technical. It means they have other things in their life they know and care about besides operating systems. > Following the logic of this kind of design, why does Fedora have a > download page at all? Anyone can use google, at least anyone who > aspires to try and install a whole operating system on a computer. Why > bother offering anything on the website explicitly? ;-) No, you're not following the logic correctly at all. Rather, you're taking my words and stretching them to absurd lengths. Please don't do that, it's pointless. ~m -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
