On Mon, 2009-09-21 at 14:03 +0100, John Austin wrote: > Hi > > I have just returned from holiday and updated F11 to latest state > Server Centos 5.3 also updated > > There was no problem afaik before the upgrades !!!! > > My F11 client uses kdm, xfce, evolution ... > and my home directory is an nfs4 mount from the server > > ------------------------------------------------------- > 1. My backup script fails - refusing to copy files of the type > > cp: cannot open `/home/ja/.local/share/applications/defaults.list.3PEP0U' for reading: Permission denied > > naxos ~ 78# ls -l /home/ja/.local/share/applications/defaults.list.I4ZS0U > ---------- 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-05-08 03:02 /home/ja/.local/share/applications/defaults.list.I4ZS0U > > cp: cannot open `/home/ja/.kde/share/config/kconf_updaterc.lockGuIM8a.tmp' for reading: Permission denied > > naxos ~ 87# ls -l /home/ja/.kde/share/config/kconf_updaterc.lockGuIM8a.tmp > ---------- 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-02-01 03:34 /home/ja/.kde/share/config/kconf_updaterc.lockGuIM8a.tmp > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > With zero length and 000 permissions > naxos ~ 86# find . -type f -size 0 -perm 000 |grep ".kde/share/config/*" |wc > 11336 11336 532781 > > Even more with just zero length > naxos ~ 84# find . -type f -size 0 |grep ".kde/share/config/*" |wc > 23783 23783 1117791 > > The vast majority of the files are associated with kde ! > naxos ~ 5# ja_null_files_ls |wc -l > 43087 > naxos ~ 6# ja_null_files_ls |grep .kde |wc -l > 43008 > > There are a lot of these files in my home directory! 240,000 at one stage !!!! > They take a very long time to delete > > The dates are strange some being in years 1970 and some 2038 > > ############################################################ > Update > My nfs4 mounted home directory is saved on a SSD disk > with noatime set > Removing the noatime seems to get rid of the 2038 dated file problem > other problems described here are still present > ############################################################ > > Why have these files appeared or have they always been there > If so why does my simple cp now treat them differently > > > 2. Evolution is now having great difficulty in reading/saving/deleting/filtering files > Is this to do with problem 1 ? > Also - when creating new message in evo a box pops up with > Could not save to autosave file "". > Error saving to autosave because "Could not open autosave file". > > 3. Thunar has great difficulty in showing thumbnails > and deselects thumbnails when changing directory > pcmanfm seems to work OK > > Is it a kde, nfs ... problem ? > > Any suggestions welcome > > John > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > PS > I have 4 little scripts to investigate with > > For 1970 dated files > naxos ~ 1# cat bin/ja_null_files_ls > #!/bin/bash > find $HOME -type f -size 0 -mtime +10000 -print0 | xargs -0 ls -l > -------------------------------------------------------------- > For 2038 dated files > naxos ~ 2# cat bin/ja_null_files_ls_future > #!/bin/bash > find $HOME -type f -size 0 -newermt "2030-02-01" -print0 | xargs -0 ls -l > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Second pair of scripts have rm instead of ls -l > -------------------------------------------------------------- > naxos ~ 9# ja_null_files_ls |less > ---------- 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-04-13 14:24 /home/ja/.evolution/.evolution-composer.autosave-3Q3D0U > ---S--srw- 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-04-11 04:20 /home/ja/.evolution/.evolution-composer.autosave-ATZC0U > ---------- 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-04-18 16:02 /home/ja/.evolution/.evolution-composer.autosave-DFFE0U > ---S--srw- 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-04-19 08:56 /home/ja/.evolution/.evolution-composer.autosave-EKHJ0U > ---------- 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-04-12 14:56 /home/ja/.evolution/.evolution-composer.autosave-GPAN0U > ---------- 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-04-17 22:57 /home/ja/.evolution/.evolution-composer.autosave-GUYR0U > ---------- 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-04-11 21:30 /home/ja/.evolution/.evolution-composer.autosave-GWOH0U > ---S--srw- 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-04-20 01:59 /home/ja/.evolution/.evolution-composer.autosave-JXSW0U > ---S--srw- 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-04-15 01:59 /home/ja/.evolution/.evolution-composer.autosave-OAMW0U > ---S--srw- 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-04-14 07:59 /home/ja/.evolution/.evolution-composer.autosave-QAJS0U > ---S--srw- 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-04-17 05:51 /home/ja/.evolution/.evolution-composer.autosave-RTTF0U > ---------- 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-04-16 12:45 /home/ja/.evolution/.evolution-composer.autosave-S9ZU0U > ---S--srw- 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-04-15 19:31 /home/ja/.evolution/.evolution-composer.autosave-ZYQT0U > ---------- 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-01-14 17:26 /home/ja/.kde/share/config/kconf_updaterc06fevc.new > ---------- 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-01-14 22:22 /home/ja/.kde/share/config/kconf_updaterc0A5kOa.new > ---------- 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-01-18 12:39 /home/ja/.kde/share/config/kconf_updaterc0EZsJa.new > --w-rw---x 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-01-14 22:15 /home/ja/.kde/share/config/kconf_updaterc0I2gOa.new > -r--rwx-wx 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-01-18 14:51 /home/ja/.kde/share/config/kconf_updaterc0Ii9Yb.new > ---xrwx-wx 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-01-13 17:19 /home/ja/.kde/share/config/kconf_updaterc0JJLgc.new > ... > > Problem explained, I think - not tested yet - a somewhat surprising answer! Centos 5.3/4 / RHEL 5.3/4 are shipping a buggered kernel ! https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524520 John -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines